Comments on: Girls of LeWeb3 http://www.liviacolare.com/2007/12/17/girls-of-leweb3/ Ideas and notes about Media, Internet, Journalism, Culture and Society Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:47:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Livia Iacolare http://www.liviacolare.com/2007/12/17/girls-of-leweb3/comment-page-1/#comment-28311 Livia Iacolare Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:23:30 +0000 http://www.liviacolare.com/2007/12/17/girls-of-leweb3/#comment-28311 I just thought it was too much ado for nothing, since the video didn't show anything but faces of women who were aware of the fact that they might have been filmed during a public conference. I'm sorry if that offended you. BTW, have you ever seen that video? I just thought it was too much ado for nothing, since the video didn’t show anything but faces of women who were aware of the fact that they might have been filmed during a public conference. I’m sorry if that offended you. BTW, have you ever seen that video?

]]> By: Scavengergirl http://www.liviacolare.com/2007/12/17/girls-of-leweb3/comment-page-1/#comment-28284 Scavengergirl Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:06:21 +0000 http://www.liviacolare.com/2007/12/17/girls-of-leweb3/#comment-28284 Because there is worse out there, that makes something not as bad ok? Did you know that upskirt shots are 'ok' because 'people cannot expect privacy in public places'? Not exactly related, but here is the reaction of a women who found out she was used in a similar manner, she wasn't happy. http://discgolfer.ning.com/forum/topics/taking-a-stand Because there is worse out there, that makes something not as bad ok?
Did you know that upskirt shots are ‘ok’ because ‘people cannot expect privacy in public places’?

Not exactly related, but here is the reaction of a women who found out she was used in a similar manner, she wasn’t happy.

http://discgolfer.ning.com/forum/topics/taking-a-stand

]]> By: catalonia blog http://www.liviacolare.com/2007/12/17/girls-of-leweb3/comment-page-1/#comment-6676 catalonia blog Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:02:34 +0000 http://www.liviacolare.com/2007/12/17/girls-of-leweb3/#comment-6676 Got to agree with Kat on this when she says:"Looks like this is one of those “Catch 22? situations. It’s always possible that a video like this may encourage more girls to go to conferences like LeWeb3 as they can see that there is a female presence". Got to agree with Kat on this when she says:”Looks like this is one of those “Catch 22? situations. It’s always possible that a video like this may encourage more girls to go to conferences like LeWeb3 as they can see that there is a female presence”.

]]> By: Cork boy http://www.liviacolare.com/2007/12/17/girls-of-leweb3/comment-page-1/#comment-393 Cork boy Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:43:11 +0000 http://www.liviacolare.com/2007/12/17/girls-of-leweb3/#comment-393 Regarding Ivan's comments on the word 'girl' and the comment by Tom backing him up, this is just a trans-Atlantic cultural difference. In Ireland, the UK, and Australia (where, essentially, British English is spoken) it is not offensive to refer to grown women as girls. Women themselves use the term all the time. My own mother is 61 and frequently says things like "I'm meeting the girls for lunch". Note that the huge British pharmacy chain Boots is currently running an ad campaign which features female office workers getting ready for their Christmas office party to the tune of "Here Come the Girls". I think you'll agree it is highly unlikely Boots would have chosen a song with lyrics likely to offend the customers that comprise their single largest demographic group! So the use of 'girl' is not going to offend the vast majority of the 65 million native English speakers in Europe, which is after all where the conference took place. "When in Rome..." Daft but possibly interesting aside: here in Cork (Ireland), grown men address each other as 'boy' all the time. It's used in roughly the same way as the Aussie word 'mate'. No doubt this form of address would be used with black people in Cork too, but without any of the racist overtone that this usage would carry in the United States. Regarding Ivan’s comments on the word ‘girl’ and the comment by Tom backing him up, this is just a trans-Atlantic cultural difference. In Ireland, the UK, and Australia (where, essentially, British English is spoken) it is not offensive to refer to grown women as girls. Women themselves use the term all the time. My own mother is 61 and frequently says things like “I’m meeting the girls for lunch”.

Note that the huge British pharmacy chain Boots is currently running an ad campaign which features female office workers getting ready for their Christmas office party to the tune of “Here Come the Girls”. I think you’ll agree it is highly unlikely Boots would have chosen a song with lyrics likely to offend the customers that comprise their single largest demographic group!

So the use of ‘girl’ is not going to offend the vast majority of the 65 million native English speakers in Europe, which is after all where the conference took place. “When in Rome…”

Daft but possibly interesting aside: here in Cork (Ireland), grown men address each other as ‘boy’ all the time. It’s used in roughly the same way as the Aussie word ‘mate’. No doubt this form of address would be used with black people in Cork too, but without any of the racist overtone that this usage would carry in the United States.

]]> By: Tom http://www.liviacolare.com/2007/12/17/girls-of-leweb3/comment-page-1/#comment-378 Tom Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:40:18 +0000 http://www.liviacolare.com/2007/12/17/girls-of-leweb3/#comment-378 Ivan - you're right. there's something odd about grown women being referred to as girls. Anyway, the feminists are absolutely right on this. It doesn't matter whether the intention was to offend, nor if the video wasn't exactly pornography. Accepting the objectification of women in an industry which already has more than its fair share of problems with gender equality is plain wrong. Ivan – you’re right. there’s something odd about grown women being referred to as girls. Anyway, the feminists are absolutely right on this. It doesn’t matter whether the intention was to offend, nor if the video wasn’t exactly pornography. Accepting the objectification of women in an industry which already has more than its fair share of problems with gender equality is plain wrong.

]]> By: Livia Iacolare » Blog Archive » My comments on Girls of LeWeb3 http://www.liviacolare.com/2007/12/17/girls-of-leweb3/comment-page-1/#comment-374 Livia Iacolare » Blog Archive » My comments on Girls of LeWeb3 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:42:45 +0000 http://www.liviacolare.com/2007/12/17/girls-of-leweb3/#comment-374 [...] P.S. a censured version of the video has been posted here. [...] [...] P.S. a censured version of the video has been posted here. [...]

]]>